I’ve seen more posts and heard more about things like barking, growling, howling, etc. in public.
For me, although I may...
I’ll be honest. I thought a lot, and I mean a lot, about...
trying to find nice things for friends in the otherkin tag is impossible people just want more drama? i want people to talk about...
Who here is a Therian, Otherkin, or Fictionkin who doesn’t feel species dysphoria? I’m really curious.
And remember that jarandhel is a fictionkin with no understanding of the world.
Willing to bet ten years ago they used to frequent the vampire white pages telling everyone about how they’re a 600 year old vampire.
Why are you guys even bothering, seriously ?
The worst part is, its the smarter people arguing with this douchecanoe..
I’ll take that bet.
Ok, poll time.
How many otherkin and therians here on Tumblr attribute their otherness to reincarnation?
also, how would you personally feel if someone said they think you might not be otherkin or therian because you attribute it to a past life, or don’t feel extreme discomfort with your human body?
I do, and I’d laugh in their faces given the history of past-life memories in the community. Entire otherkin mailing lists have existed (and many continue to exist) primarily to discuss past-life memories. Krenar Dragons, the private Elenari List, Elenari and Friends, Vorjenhunting, the Alorya list, etc. This has been the case for a long time in the community. Notably absent? Otherkin lists specifically to discuss body dysphoria.
I’m really fairly average among the older members of the community. I’d like to see more experienced otherkin active on tumblr, but hey - nothing says people have to limit themselves to tumblr if they’re exploring the community either. Check out some of the old mailing lists and the older forums like Embracing Mystery. Here’s some links to help you connect with the otherkin community outside of tumblr:
And for some of my personal recommendations, check out http://dreamhart.org/2012/01/a-revised-otherkin-faq/
For anyone who was a fan of The Relic Hound on Etsy, the owner has moved to a new shop, Cynanthropy Crafts:
Cynanthropy Crafts is a small online shop providing a select number of craft pieces made with specific intent, for connecting with one’s animal nature. The shop itself has a specific canine focus, based on the craftsman’s personal experience. Craft pieces tend to be made from animal remains and natural history objects and remnants.
Cynanthropy Crafts does not support sport hunters, fur farms or other sources based in the torture or unnatural living of a wild animal, and you will not find the products of such items in my shop. Most of the items presented are secondhand items, cast offs, antique shop finds, or related. I do not wish to create a demand on “cast off” animal remains and put further environmental pressure on a species. All items that are products of animal remains will only be sold as “worked” or “finished” into completed craft pieces, made with intent and with an animistic focus.
The owner of Cynanthropy Crafts does not run this site for profit as its sole intention. Profit destroys species. Just because you did not pull the trigger or set the trap does not mean you are rendered blameless. “Recycled” does not always mean “ethical”. Educate yourselves, and know your sources.
This crafter does great work in both a physical and metaphysical sense, and I highly recommend checking the new shop out.
You’re the second person to report this issue, but so far I haven’t been able to reproduce it. What browser and operating system are you on? Are you trying to access the chat through http://dreamhart.org/chat/ or through http://my.chat.mibbit.com/home to get a larger chat screen? Previously, the problem has only been reported via the latter. And is the chat giving any sort of visible error message, or just behaving as if you never clicked on the connect button? Also, have you tried clearing your browser’s cache prior to reloading the page? Lastly, one workaround that’s been found to whatever is causing this issue is to access the chat through this url: http://search.mibbit.com/search/dreamhart
Hmmm, if you’re going on the Mercurial planetary association, then perhaps… but how about dreams? illusion? a general association of the moon with magical power (if one has one)? Fluidity? And the link about psychic or intuitive powers isn’t necessarily irrelevant for shifting.
The planetary (and deity) association is part of it, but there’s also other qualities it was treasured for - such as it’s fluidity in its chemical form, earning it the name “quicksilver”. Magically, it’s used for alchemy, magic, transformation, insight, manifestation, wealth, and mental agility. To quote a bit from The Book of Stones by Robert Simmons and Naisha Ahsian: “Cinnabar Quartz stones are talismans of the alchemical transformation from self to Self, the full manifestation of one’s spiritual blueprint, the fulfilment of the Divine pattern we carry within.” Ahsian specifically states: “Cinnabar teaches us that physicality is not as solid as it appears, but is in fact a constantly shifting and flowing expression of energy that can be manipulated and transformed. It is a powerful stone for spiritual alchemists who wish to practice shape-shifting, magical manifestation and other types of transformation.”
As for moonstone, I’m not saying it’s necessarily the worst stone to use, but most therians and otherkin who use it for shifting aren’t using it because of these associations. They’re using it because “Even a man who is pure of heart, and says his prayers at night, can become a wolf when the wolfsbane blooms, and the moon is full and bright.” Which is largely a modern invention. Moonstone has no inherent transformative qualities; instead it is associated with mystery, self-discovery, intuition, insight, dreams, and the goddess. Also, as was noted, psychic awareness. And, of course, the moon itself.
Some other stones that may be useful for shapeshifting work are cerussite, covellite, platinum, moldavite, clear quartz, and tugtupite.
So, I was stalking various therian posts the other day and came across one which mentioned moonstone being helpful in shifting (mental and phantom, no werefoxes here guys <3). I saw no other mention of it online, but figured it had something to do with how moonstone is said to enhance psychic and intuitive powers.
Most of the sources which claim it’s good for that are based on the movie-image of werewolves changing form during the full moon. They extrapolate from that to the idea that a stone associated with the moon would also aid shifting. Actual gem and mineral lore would suggest Cinnabar as one of the best choices to aid in mental or phantom shifting, though care should be taken with it as it is an ore of mercury.
Certainly, though what in particular are you having trouble with? Mental shifts? Memories? Dysphoria? A need to feed on blood or energy?
http://herzogwyrmsyn.tumblr.com/post/29469165679/look-at-what-we-just-got The whole chat log. Its been linked several…
Did you even read those chat logs? Not only was Eric very honest about being his pedo-fetish, but he was also upfront about the fact that he was otherkin, his types, and the fact that he was in another open relationship with a member of a plural system. The “groomed 13 year old” you people rave about is a couple young girls who read his blog and decided to conduct an in depth trolling operation by pretending to like him, pretending to be a single person, and pretending to be his girlfriend.
Eric did everything right. He was honest, he was cautious in approaching unknown topics with her, and he always asked how she was in their conversation. Most of the talk was about hobbies, likes, interests, on only maybe 3 occasions does any sexual talk ensue, and then it’s only references or statements, nothing even that explicit.
This isn’t “grooming a 13 year old” this is being played by a couple of teenage bitches and who fell apart at the end, and Eric maturely and incredibly politely took the cruel news and just let it go. These teenage brats are cursing him out, acting like typical tumblr trolls, and Eric calmly lets it slide, and that’s the end.
I don’t know how you people are managing to see the situation in such a backwards way. =/
Look you fucking idiot, Draven himself stated in that log that he hoped she wasn’t a cop from To Catch a Predator because even he, as fucked up as he is, knew that their conversation was inappropriate and could have lead to his arrest if she had, in fact, been a 13 year old. Even he knew that he did not, in fact, “do everything right”. How fucked up do you have to be to think that there is nothing wrong with a 16 year old asking a 13 year old if they watch porn, openly talk to said 13 year old about being a pedophile and about liking “lolis”, etc? This is not normal, this is not mature, this is not polite, it is creepy ass grooming and if she had actually been 13 this log could have landed him in jail. Even he knew that. You’re the only one who doesn’t seem to get it.
Even though I can’t personally relate to otherkin who heavily feel they are in the *wrong* species body and persistently experience a driving desire to be in their ‘proper’ non-human form (form of their ‘kintype(s)—though I think it mainly affects those with only one ‘kintype), I do respect and try to empathize to what extent I can (although I know that extent isn’t enough or related directly enough to the matter at hand) with those who do experience these kinds of thoughts and feelings. I do not view them as being “wrong” for feeling that way, nor do I view them as being, in a sense, ‘not mature enough’, or not ‘experienced’ enough in “dealing” with being otherkin.
I do. Because you can’t go through the rest of your life feeling that way. You have to find a way to get a handle on your dysphoria. And it’s not going to be surgery or magically becoming your true form. I’d love it if it were, I’d love if it I could wake up tomorrow in some of the forms I remember from previous lives, but it’s not going to happen. And unless we have major unexpected breakthroughs in either science or magic, not only is it not going to happen in our lifetimes but it’s not going to happen in the lifetimes of our grandchildren’s grandchildren. And that’s even assuming that we could persuade society to fund research in that direction in the first place. I don’t see that going so well for the transhumanists, they’ve had moderate luck with cybernetics but very little with other biotechnology that I’ve seen.
So, faced with that fact, you’re pretty much forced to learn how to deal with the fact that you simply are going to experience dysphoria. Not accepting that, and not learning how to deal with that, is a sign of immaturity in my opinion. And it’s a big part of the reason why younger, newly-awakened otherkin and therians are most likely to be the ones talking about going home or gaining their trueform.
Whereas I agree with most of this, I feel that sometimes, people can’t help but feel selfish. As long as they don’t continuously post and complain about it, every once and a while, everyone complains about how they feel out of place and wish they were accepted. I also agree with not using therianthropy or being other kin as an excuse to not be a productive member of society. I am not open with my therianthropy for the most part, however I wish people were more accepting to ALL differences, and were more tolerant, no matter what, to all groups. Hence I do wish that the general public would be more accepting to otherkin and therian as well, but only because I wish that everyone were more accepting. Wondering your opinion on that as well. :) Nice post though, I appreciate people who voice their opinions and feelings, very admirable.
Oh, I agree. Being selfish is something that people just do. I’m not necessarily bothered by that, really, just… just the fact that a good number of people on here seem to feel that their selfishness and their desires trump everyone else, and that this should be firmly incorporated into society. And anyone who disagrees is a bully/ableist/whatever.
As far as becoming more accepting… honestly? I tend to view therianthropy roughly the same way I view religion: there’s really no reason to screech yourself hoarse about it in public. I mean, you can, I guess, but people will look at you kind of funny, mainly because you’re being disruptive and calling attention to yourself. And that’s… sort of a normal thing for people to do? It’s natural for humans (and many other animals) to be curious about or downright distrustful of things they don’t recognize or understand. It’s an old survival instinct.
You can go ahead and do anything you want as far as I’m concerned, but you have to understand and expect that people will react. And you can’t sit there and say that they’re reacting incorrectly or whatever, because I can pretty much guarantee that no one outright hates you the moment they see you. They’re just reacting naturally, and if you want to make a real spectacle of yourself, then there are going to be consequences.
As for me? Well… okay, here’s an example of me and my therianthropy in public. I work at a pet store, right? I’m rather at home in this pet store; my coworkers and I get along well together, so on and so forth. So after I eat dinner or lunch or whatever? I’ll lick my hands, then use them to clean my face. Very much like a felid. Clean, lick, over and over again until my mouth is clean. This was how this went the first time I did it in front of a coworker:
Coworker: …what are you doing?
Me: …I’m cleaning my face.
Coworker: But.. why like that?
Me: *shrug* Because I feel like it. Why? Does it bother you?
Coworker: No… it just… it sort of looks like a cat. *starts giggling* It’s cute.
Me: …*blinks; continues licking*
Coworker: Oh, so wanna hear about that customer yesterday?
And the evening went on.
Same when I’m asked about my sharpened nails, same if I lean up against the counter and cross my arms funny to “lay down.” If I do something that looks odd to someone, they’ll comment, I’ll comment back, and… nothing really happens.
But I don’t freak out about them commenting. I don’t get mad because I know this looks weird to most people. And I choose to do it anyway because… well, because I feel like it. But what in the world is the point of being all offended over it? Act all offended, or frightened, or embarrassed, and people won’t accept it. Act like it’s no big deal, and unless someone’s a real asshole, things pretty much get smoothed over.
You can be a little weird… okay, no, you can be a lot weird (please keep in mind that I also fangirl in front of my coworkers, and me crying over Starscream is often WAY more jarring than me licking my hands or purring a little), and really, whether or not people accept you has way more to do with how weird you are.
I do weird shit, I guess. But you know what? I’m also the most knowledgeable about all the animals at the store. I’m the best at handling nasty customers. I’m calm, confident, and capable of taking charge. I tell really good jokes, apparently. I’m useful, so the fact that I lay on the counter funny doesn’t really matter.
I’m not causing a disturbance, I’m not harming anyone, and though I might get the occasional weird look, I don’t fight anyone, and I have a wealth of information and other things to offer in order to convince people that, yes, despite the fact that my first instinct when I’m mad is to bear my teeth at you, it is a useful thing to talk to me.
Societal interactions and the like are a give and take; you can’t expect the world to change itself for you when you have nothing to offer it in return.
I wish I could heart individual posts in a thread, but can’t so just reblogging.